Happy New Year!

Am I invited to the cassoulet jeebus?

I can volunteer an '88 Gentaz if I pop by Oxford first. I last had it 3 years ago but what a wine. The '88 Pierre Barge is probably slightly past it (from the same cellar).

Shockingly, I agree with Brad. Maybe I'm wrong as well...

Joe - Rostaing? To me that's more shocking than a Guigal...
 
Don't think Marius Gentaz has passed on, just leased his vineyards to Rostaing since his son passed on and he's "retired".

His wines are great, but so were Clash concerts in the 80s. It's certainly nice to dust off the old (LPs/bootlegs/bottles) and enjoy them, but it's not really useful to recommend them today because unless you are still holding them in your cellar or you want to bid against Plotnicki, you won't get to have any.

A better question is who (other than Jamet) makes good Cote Rotie today (2005/2006 vintages)?
 
originally posted by mlawton:

A better question is who (other than Jamet) makes good Cote Rotie today (2005/2006 vintages)?
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A question that's been kicking around in my mind, too, not that I can afford much of it these days. Haven't there been warning flags raised about recent Jamet, too? And Eric T. seems to be on the short list. I have a bit of love-hate with Jasmin, as I've usually found his wines too oaky when young, but several older versions have seemed much more true to form.

Mark Lipton
 
New Year's Eve was spent drinking box wine and something with bubbles. New Year's Day began in Coney Island with Franois Pinon Ptillant Brut Ros and shots of Hudson Baby Bourbon.
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by JasonA:
shots of Hudson Baby Bourbon.
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I have a jar of that myself. Good stuff! Whats its story?
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Only what they tell me here. It is a pretty apt description but I continue to get an odd metallic aftertaste - maybe remnants of being "pot distilled"
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by mlawton:

A better question is who (other than Jamet) makes good Cote Rotie today (2005/2006 vintages)?
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A question that's been kicking around in my mind, too, not that I can afford much of it these days. Haven't there been warning flags raised about recent Jamet, too? And Eric T. seems to be on the short list. I have a bit of love-hate with Jasmin, as I've usually found his wines too oaky when young, but several older versions have seemed much more true to form.

Mark Lipton
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I don't really buy Cote-Rotie any more. Well, maybe a bit of Eric's. I bought Levet in 2001, but I dedicate almost all of my syrah money to Allemand. Gonon as well as Eric's St. Croix St. Josephs are on my radar now.

I used to buy Jamet, Ogier, Barge, Gallet, and Lafoy et Gasse.

I'd be interested in who is doing good work these days.
 
originally posted by JasonA:
Only what they tell me here. It is a pretty apt description but I continue to get an odd metallic aftertaste - maybe remnants of being "pot distilled"
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Ive tasted more of the four grain bourbon, which I liked. I only had a small taste of the baby bourbon and that was on New Years Eve or Day or something, I cant remember if it was before or after we tore into the gingerbread house. Im happy these micro-distillers are popping up.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by mlawton:

A better question is who (other than Jamet) makes good Cote Rotie today (2005/2006 vintages)?
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A question that's been kicking around in my mind, too, not that I can afford much of it these days. Haven't there been warning flags raised about recent Jamet, too? And Eric T. seems to be on the short list. I have a bit of love-hate with Jasmin, as I've usually found his wines too oaky when young, but several older versions have seemed much more true to form.

Mark Lipton
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I don't really buy Cote-Rotie any more. Well, maybe a bit of Eric's. I bought Levet in 2001, but I dedicate almost all of my syrah money to Allemand. Gonon as well as Eric's St. Croix St. Josephs are on my radar now.

I used to buy Jamet, Ogier, Barge, Gallet, and Lafoy et Gasse.

I'd be interested in who is doing good work these days.
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Everything VLM says holds true for me as well.
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by JasonA:
Only what they tell me here. It is a pretty apt description but I continue to get an odd metallic aftertaste - maybe remnants of being "pot distilled"
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Ive tasted more of the four grain bourbon, which I liked. I only had a small taste of the baby bourbon and that was on New Years Eve or Day or something, I cant remember if it was before or after we tore into the gingerbread house. Im happy these micro-distillers are popping up.
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I quite like the rye.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by JasonA:
Only what they tell me here. It is a pretty apt description but I continue to get an odd metallic aftertaste - maybe remnants of being "pot distilled"
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Ive tasted more of the four grain bourbon, which I liked. I only had a small taste of the baby bourbon and that was on New Years Eve or Day or something, I cant remember if it was before or after we tore into the gingerbread house. Im happy these micro-distillers are popping up.
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I quite like the rye.
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That is some nice rye.
 
originally posted by VLM:

I don't really buy Cote-Rotie any more. Well, maybe a bit of Eric's. I bought Levet in 2001, but I dedicate almost all of my syrah money to Allemand. Gonon as well as Eric's St. Croix St. Josephs are on my radar now.

I used to buy Jamet, Ogier, Barge, Gallet, and Lafoy et Gasse.

I'd be interested in who is doing good work these days.
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I bought some '05 Gallet based on JLL recommendations but haven't tasted yet.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
domaine faury, until recently known as philipe faury, makes wonderful affordable (compared to others) st. joseph.
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And a good VdPdCR, too. I recently had the '06 and it was nothing to sneeze at. Ironically, it's easier to find quality producers in St. Joseph and Cornas than it is in the more prestigious appellations of the N Rhone. I'll take Claude's word for it that Chapoutier is making decent wine these days, but there are still precious few producers in either Hermitage or Cote-Rotie that make wines to my taste, even ignoring the exorbitant pricing.

Mark Lipton
 
A better question is who (other than Jamet) makes good Cote Rotie today (2005/2006 vintages)?
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Jamet is pretty much the only C-R I buy regularly nowadays, but that's borne out of faith rather than my being impressed when tasting them young.

Guigal? Chuckle...
 
originally posted by Bill Buitenhuys:
I bought some '05 Gallet based on JLL recommendations but haven't tasted yet.
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I used to like Gallet, but post 2000 or 2001 the winemaking changed and he lost me. Haven't tasted recent vintages.
 
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